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The "They Sold Their Souls for Rock and Roll Thread"
If you have never seen the video "They Sold Their Souls for Rock and Roll" it is jaw dropping, it used to be free online to watch, i'll check it out later, i have to get ready for work now 
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Re: The "They sold their souls for rock and roll thread"
"Mel says"
Wow. You can find that video on YouTube in 5 minute parts. I've been listening to it all morning. Very enlightening. Here's a link to the first one, then you can click on the next one when it finishes.
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Re: The "They sold their souls for rock and roll thread"
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I have heard of that video before, but never seen it.
I will have to check it out.
(thanks for the link Mel)
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Re: The "They sold their souls for rock and roll thread"
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I just sat through 6 of the 5 minute parts. (Thanks gary and Mel..now I'm 30 minutes behind) Interesting I must say, I don't agree with all that is being said, but then again I don't know all of those bands.
Would be a great research.
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Re: The "They sold their souls for rock and roll thread"
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This might deserve a thread of it's own over in the Music Forum.
Well i thought about it when skys mentioned "top three things in teenagers minds nowdays is family/friends, spirituallity, and music. "
If you go to "goodfight.org "HERE at the right side bottom they have a 28 MIN. PREVIEW, but i cant get it to open, I did find the 28 min preview here also HERE
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Wow. You can find that video on YouTube in 5 minute parts.
here is google video, not sure if its the same but there is a long list
CLICK HERE
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Re: The "They sold their souls for rock and roll thread"
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Well, I finished all of that, there were 40 parts. I didn't agree with everything either, but I gotta say, they make a good case. A couple of things seemed to be a bit of a stretch, and I think that some heavy metal bands just claim that they're satanic to fuel controversy and sell more records.
But, that theme isn't limited to the metal genre. It seems quite prevailant throughout all popular music. And all the history about Aleister Crowley was quite interesting.
It pieced togther a lot of stuff that I didn't realize fit together before. Now maybe it wasn't such a stretch after all.
Very interesting stuff. I'm gonna have to check out their website later to see what else I can find out.
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Re: The "They sold their souls for rock and roll thread"
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Order of Mel ...
Well, I finished all of that, there were 40 parts. I didn't agree with everything either, but I gotta say, they make a good case. A couple of things seemed to be a bit of a stretch, and I think that some heavy metal bands just claim that they're satanic to fuel controversy and sell more records......
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I just sat through 6 of the 5 minute parts. (Thanks gary and Mel..now I'm 30 minutes behind) Interesting I must say, I don't agree with all that is being said, but then again I don't know all of those bands.
Okay, most people here know of my love for hard rock/heavy metal music. And I will be the first to admit that music is full of evil and sin (which is why I very seldom listen to secular music anymore). But after having watched the first 7 parts of that documentary, I must say that I am a little disappointed with how they have intentionally "misrepresented" some of the artist's quotes. They make it appear that every musician is a Satanist, and that their goal is to influence children to become Satanitst as well. Some of those quotes (especially from Jefferson Airplane) where regarding getting young people to buck the "system" as musicians saw it. Many of them truly believe that the established government and norms where evil (especially in the 1960's), and they hoped to influence the younger generation to be "better" than the previous generation, not Satanists. Some of these musicians went on to found the Jesus People Movement.
I will agree that much of the information they have presented (so far) is probably fairly correct, and most rock, rap and country music does indeed promote flagrant sin. But thier indirect misquoting of popular musicians leads me to question their real motives and makes their authenticity suspect to me.
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But after having watched the first 7 parts of that documentary,
Watch the rest, they've got an interesting perspective.
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I must say that I am a little disappointed with how they have intentionally "misrepresented" some of the artist's quotes.
Yeah, I felt that some of the quotes were probably taken out of context, or taken seriously when the band members weren't.
However, aren't they still rebelling against God? And whether they know it or not, aren't they still furthering Aleister Crowley's agenda? Some of them might know what they are doing, others are blindly caught up in it without a clue. But Jesus says, "Whoever's not with Me is against Me, and whoever doesn't gather with Me, scatters."
I have CDs of Van Halen (and Van Hagar), Rob Zombie, Garbage, Kid Rock, Melissa Etheridge, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Judas Priest, and tons more pop and metal from the 80's and 90's.
I've seen AC/DC, Metallica, Ozzie and Guns n Roses in concert. My first album was AC/DC's "Let There Be Rock."
I'm reluctant to get rid of all the secular music that I have stored away, but I don't really listen to it anymore.
All these have been replaced by Casting Crowns, Third Day, Jeremy Riddle, Chris Tomlin, Rebecca St James, Jaci Velasquez, Darlene Zchech, Mercy Me, Nichole Nordeman, etc.
Alice Cooper claims to be a Christian these days, what do you think of that?
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Re: The "They Sold Their Souls for Rock and Roll Thread"
Here ya go, from an article in World Net Daily Posted: March 1, 2002:
Alice Cooper goes with God
'Shock-rock' pioneer now 'dedicated to follow Christ'
Alice Cooper interview
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Re: The "They Sold Their Souls for Rock and Roll Thread"
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However, aren't they still rebelling against God? And whether they know it or not, aren't they still furthering Aleister Crowley's agenda? Some of them might know what they are doing, others are blindly caught up in it without a clue. But Jesus says, "Whoever's not with Me is against Me, and whoever doesn't gather with Me, scatters."
Everything you say I do agree with. Sin is rampant in our musical culture, and most of it does not further the kingdom of God. But I think that can easily be shown without misquoting or misdirecting what is actually going on in music today.
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Order ofMelchizedek ...
I have CDs of Van Halen (and Van Hagar), Rob Zombie, Garbage, Kid Rock, Melissa Etheridge, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Judas Priest, and tons more pop and metal from the 80's and 90's.
I've seen AC/DC, Metallica, Ozzie and Guns n Roses in concert. My first album was AC/DC's "Let There Be Rock."
I'm reluctant to get rid of all the secular music that I have stored away, but I don't really listen to it anymore.
I think wether or not to keep albums from secular artist should be decided by what God is directing you to do. I got rid of all of my secular music at one point (almost 400 cds), because it had become an idol to me and seriously affected my relationship and walk with Christ. If secular music does not affect you adversely I don't see why you (as a Christian could not listen to secular music). We must all discriminate; music that clearly glorifies a lifestyle contrary to what Christ has commanded should certainly be out IMO(sadly most of the bands you have listed probably fit into that category).
I could go on about this subject forever.
BTW if you have quite a bit of secular music you no longer listen to, you can list in on a trading site (such as lala.com) and trade it for more CCM or P&W music.
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Alice Cooper claims to be a Christian these days, what do you think of that?
I have read that article Gary posted (a few years ago I believe) and I do believe that Alice Cooper has accepted Christ as his savior (more than a decade ago if I remember correctly). I don't know where Alice is with his "Christian walk" but his music is certainly not evangelical by nature, and I wouldn't recommend it to a new Christian. Alice has stated himself that he is not a preacher, and I think it is obvious if you look at the song lyircs from his last 4 or 5 albums, that his music is not necessarily "Christian".
BTW there are actually several artist in secular bands that are Christians. Niko McBrain (drummer for Iron Maiden) is a Christian, but none of his band mates are. Also Dave Mustaine (from Megadeth) is also a Christian (and a fairly new one at that). That does not mean that the music they continue to create is evangelical.
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