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Jesus did not stroke egos! He rebuked them!
Jesus was harsh to those who displayed a rebellious spirit and those who were after the things of man. He rebuked Peter (Matt 16:23) for such as that and lost his temper in the church, (John 2:13-17) toppling tables in anger.
(Mark 3:5) tells us "Jesus was angry with the hardness of their hearts".
We are not here to be so nice to wolves in sheep's clothing-evil communication (1Co 15:33) corrupting good manners. We are not here to stroke the ego of those who do not love the truth. Jesus didn't and I won't either!
(Speaking for myself here. Others may feel different.)
We are here to share the truth according to the gospel which we believe to be the only truth, everything else is heresy!
If you are offended by biblical standards, the truth is not in you, period.
There are those who accept (embrace) their sinful nature as a personal attribute and will argue and reason away as to why they are the way they are till the cows come home and will be offended by those who are bold in truth and think of us as being harsh.
They are also deceived and preach to others that we should be ever so kind to one another at all times... accepting (embracing) the sinful nature, we should be kind to them cuz Jesus was kind.
This attitude displays the truth of lacking biblical knowledge of truth. This is political correctness-deception.
Jesus was kind and merciful with great compassion, but he also was thought of as harsh to those who rejected him and his teachings! To say you love Jesus but reject his teachings is deceiving yourself.
To believe truth to be harsh and rude- is accepting (embracing) your sins as an attribute of your own character.
If we know Jesus as our personal savior then we are lead by the Holy Spirit in truth with boldness. We accept his teachings, we live by his teachings, we defend his teachings and this is thought of as harsh to those who reject his teachings!
Jesus did not stroke egos! He rebuked them!
God help us to embrace our Savior and His teachings... and reject the deception of our sinful nature. In Jesus precious Holy name. Amen.
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Re: Jesus did not stroke egos! He rebuked them!
Awesome post, Winkks!
Sounds like you've been following some of my other post history .....
--- I know who saved my soul and I want this world to know, that I was once blind, once lost, Now I'm blood bought, reconciled to God by the blood He shed on the cross. -Eternal M.o.G.
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Re: Jesus did not stroke egos! He rebuked them!
Thanks brother mel! To God be the glory! Y'all are always very kind in your replies.
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Your other posts history? Ummmm, the truth shall set us free? Hehehe.... Praise the Lord! Of course I have. You are perceptive indeed!
The truth may be hard to see in the midst of justification but truth never ever returns void! Justification is not evenly yoked with truth and withers with it's host.
Pray God though;... He is in the business of changing the hearts and minds of man through conviction. Amen! If it weren't for that, I'd really be in a spiritual bind, hehe.
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8/31/2007, 10:47 am
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Re: Jesus did not stroke egos! He rebuked them!
quoting Winkks ...
We are here to share the truth according to the gospel which we believe to be the only truth, everything else is heresy!
If you are offended by biblical standards, the truth is not in you, period.
Very true, but if I present the truth in this manner to my brothers and sisters who have not yet accepted God's truth, they will likely not accept it.
--- Peace, that brief period in history when everyone stops to reload.
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Re: Jesus did not stroke egos! He rebuked them!
There's a quote, I forget who said it, but it goes something like this:
Where are we going to chase them off to? Hell number 2?
Kinda makes sense. What do you think?
--- I know who saved my soul and I want this world to know, that I was once blind, once lost, Now I'm blood bought, reconciled to God by the blood He shed on the cross. -Eternal M.o.G.
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Re: Jesus did not stroke egos! He rebuked them!
Brother brite;...
What "manner" of truth are you referring to?
"Brothers and sisters who have not yet accepted God's truth"? That's contradictory.
Brothers and sisters "in Christ" know the truth, that's how they have become "in Christ", saved, therefore... they are brothers and sisters "in Christ". Otherwise;... you are talking "all God's children". There's a difference.
"They will likely not accept it"? So what you are saying is that you are responsible for their decision to not accept the truth?
What "manner" would you suggest in sharing truth? Compromising your own integrity?
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Some people (God's children), preach another gospel. They preach worldly babble. They do not preach-teach sound doctrine. When a Christian is faced with heresy, it is his/her responsibility to bring the truth to light. And the truth is the teachings of Christ.
To say they would not accept the truth in the manner of truth is justifying silence.
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Brother mel;... you're right about that!
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Re: Jesus did not stroke egos! He rebuked them!
By brothers and sisters, I meant all Gods children.
Just because my brother refuses to acknowledge our Father does not make him any less my brother (but certainly my brother who needs prayer).
quoting "They will likely not accept it"? So what you are saying is that you are responsible for their decision to not accept the truth?
No, it is definately not my responsibility. However if I go storming into someones community and demand that they listen to me and accept God's word as truth or they are all going to hell, I don't expect to get many "Hallelujah's"
So when they reject Christ because they see me as self-righteous, and disrepectful to them (maybe the only picture of Christ they will ever see), I can just shake my head ,and blame it on their ignorance?
Then I can walk away with a clean conscience because I tried to help them, and they refused to see the light. When in truth I may have hindered Christ's cause more then if I had said nothing at all.
Not pointing fingers, just trying to see it through the eyes of the lost (one of which I was for quite some time).
I am not advocating anyone compromise their integrity. And I will readily admit that there are many false Christians out there spreading death in the name of Christ and confusing many to their ultimate demise. I despise this worse than those who are obvious enemies of Christ.
quoting There's a quote, I forget who said it, but it goes something like this:
Where are we going to chase them off to? Hell number 2?
Funny, but if I take this line of reasoning to it's logical end.....then it is ok to completely piss-off every non-Christian, because they are just going to hell anyway.
--- Peace, that brief period in history when everyone stops to reload.
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Re: Jesus did not stroke egos! He rebuked them!
quoting Funny, but if I take this line of reasoning to it's logical end.....then it is ok to completely piss-off every non-Christian, because they are just going to hell anyway.
Well, that's really not the goal, but if they get mad, they get mad. You've gotta remember that it ain't you that's doing the work - you're only called to witness. Only God saves.
--- I know who saved my soul and I want this world to know, that I was once blind, once lost, Now I'm blood bought, reconciled to God by the blood He shed on the cross. -Eternal M.o.G.
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Re: Jesus did not stroke egos! He rebuked them!
quoting Order ofMelchizedek ...
Well, that's really not the goal, but if they get mad, they get mad. You've gotta remember that it ain't you that's doing the work - you're only called to witness. Only God saves.
I do understand that it is up to God to soften their hearts, and he gets all the glory when (and if) they accept his truth.
But since we are not perfect, is it possible that we can mess up God's plans, and turn people away from him, that may have otherwise been saved later on? (I have an answer for this, but I want to see what you all think, also Java is getting kind of mad with me because she thinks I am being foolish).
--- Peace, that brief period in history when everyone stops to reload.
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No, God is sovereign. Man cannot mess up His plans.
--- I know who saved my soul and I want this world to know, that I was once blind, once lost, Now I'm blood bought, reconciled to God by the blood He shed on the cross. -Eternal M.o.G.
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