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Thought of the Week: Sin
Ok, we (the leadership of the youthgroup) are going to start a new thing that for now will be called "Thought of the Week" until somebody cooler than me renames it.
Basically what it is is a chance to discuss the topic of our wednesday night lesson in more depth. This weeks topic is Sin, which is a pretty big thing to discuss.
I think what really gets me about sin is how consuming it can be. Sometimes I look at myself and suddenly realize out of the blue that I'm sinning in a particular repetitive way-- in a way I never even thought I sinned! Then all of a sudden, I have all these walls to break down that I didn't even realize were built. Or I struggle and struggle until I'm numb to what I'm doing wrong. The Flyleaf song really hit a chord with me, how sick I get of myself and what I do. So!! What were you guys thoughts?
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Re: Thought of the Week: Sin
Hmmm.... I'm trying to think of a quote, and it's just about right on the verge of that "EUREKA!" moment...
The strangest thing about sin is... sometimes, in some ways, it can help people, even making the world SEEM like a better place. But that doesn't mean it's right in any way. I'd go with another example, but I don't think that anyone would understand it as well as this one, so I'll use the second one that came to mind...
The Nazis basically wanted everyone to be the same. Whether for this reason or not, descrimination would have softened. If everybody was exactly the same, through slaughter, conformity, or exile, descrimination, one of the major problems in this world, would cease. To some people, that would look like the answer. But at the same time, you're sacrificing a lot. More than just people, you're sacrificing the joy of BEING different. You're completely destroying the way things are supposed to be by trying to create a utopia. "Race, gender, culture, appearance... we are all engulfed by the things. Descriminated against, though not our fault." Sin would seem the answer.
While not so extreme as the example above, a lot of us do this a LOT, including myself. Trying to fix something or change something through sin isn't right, no matter how perfect it makes things. Usually it's just for the time being anyway.
In other words, if you didn't read all that's above, sin is bad. 
(I really hope I didn't ramble too much. I was struck by lightning at that moment.)
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Re: Thought of the Week: Sin
Hitler came into power because Germany was going into a cultural decline--rising crime, vice, etc. ..the musical "Cabaret" is about that era, I think. Hitler promised reform.
People wanted safety and peace...and traded rights for that. The "common good" became the sacrificial altar for the Holocaust...not just Jews, but the insane, disabled, retarded, misfits, Gypsies, dissidents....
The problem with any social reform is that sinners are running it! Look at history & then look at what's happening now. To quote Pogo, "We have met the enemy and they is us."
So, what is the answer? Control has to be from the inside (heart, mind, spirit) or it will be done from the outside (society's laws, peer pressure, natural consequences) and most of us use a combination of the two.
What would be a good working definition of "sin"?
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Re: Thought of the Week: Sin
"Each of us must turn inward and destroy in himself all that he thinks he ought to destroy in others." Etty Hillesum
I thought of that quote when you were talking about Hitler. It's annoying how many times you'll get mad at somebody for doing something that you do right back at them. But what did Jesus say about taking the beam out of your own eye before telling your brother he's got a speck in his?
The main thought I have on sin is also a quote. "An ever increasing craving for an ever diminishing pleasure..."
Take sexual sins. If you hold hands with someone every day for an hour, at first thats great.. then you want to hug them. So you start hugging, and then thats not enough either, you want to kiss them. Or probably in every other sin, you want more and more and what you have stops satisfying you. It's a horrible cycle.
Yeah, sin is bad.
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Re: Thought of the Week: Sin
Along with all that, I think something less extreme would be like.. I don't know.... trying to change a person for the better with anger. Thinking, "If I get seriously angry and hurt them just a little, then they'll change cuz they'll know it's serious. " i don't know if that all made sense, but thats something I deal with, thinking that it's OK to lash out and be mad because when the other person deals with whats making me mad, they'll be better for it.
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Re: Thought of the Week: Sin
here's my thoughts right now from my lesson on wedensday night (which i was freaking out about doing and TOTALLY feel like i bombed):
it's a Flyleaf song. i am receptive to their stuff...
"Sick of circling the same road
Sick of bearing the guilt
So open the windows to cool off
And heat pours in instead
Perfect in weakness
I'm only perfect in just your strength alone
All my efforts to clean me
Leave me putrid and filthy
And how can you look at me
When I can't stand myself
I'm tired to be honest
I'm nobody
Perfect in weakness
I'm only perfect in just your strength alone"
my big thing is realizing how much i fail and realizing how big of a rut i'm in and that i keep circling it. realizing that no matter what i do nor how hard i try, i'm constantly pulled back into doing what i hate doing...like cussing at church. oh man! i'll be sitting there and everything will be great and then BAM! there goes a string of cuss words and i'm sitting there in the pew, scratching my head trying to figure out where that came from. i try SOOOOO hard to be perfect, or at least what i think is perfect in my mind. it's terrible! i have these expectations for myself that are just RIDICULOUS but if it don't get close to them, then i get so horrible on myself and just so upset. i'm that way with my walk with God. i expect for everything to be perfect and it's not...it's really really messed up....and yet i get so pissed at myself for not having it perfect. GAH!
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Re: Thought of the Week: Sin
When the Bible says that out of the heart the mouth speaks, it's not kidding! I know so many times I'd catch myself about to say something horrible and just think "Where did that come from!?!?" But what am I putting into my mind? What am I holding close to my heart? Thats whats going to come out of my mouth.
Stinks how that kind of stuff works, doesn't it?
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Well pleased a prisoner to be, because my God, it pleases Thee.
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Re: Thought of the Week: Sin
yes, me too. i will not mention anything.
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Re: Thought of the Week: Sin
I agree.
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Re: Thought of the Week: Sin
Stay on topic...
Anyway, Sin is really an endless cycle, because we're always going to have new problems to deal with. Even if we think we don't, God will bring them to the surface. That doesn't mean that we should quit trying to get rid of it, though, because it is a great help not to sin. That's just my 2 cents.
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