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musicbybj
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Let's start a new one.
Jack
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Gary N
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old schtufff...Peace, Gary
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5/24/2008, 9:13 pm
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musicbybj
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Gary, your photos are always a welcome addition and a great look at the Rogers past.
Jack
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Gary N
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tanks. G
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5/24/2008, 9:19 pm
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tommykat1
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Gary, wonderful, as always. Looks like Bubba Armstrong had some purple haze!
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superten
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Great drums Gary , any info on them?,i,m guessing WMP set 1940,s and Bubbas PDP Set late 50,s i don,t suppose there are many of these drums around anymore , they really are great to see 
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5/25/2008, 4:31 am
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Gary N
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Thanks! Yes there are stories with every piece of old Rogers. That Tower bass drum I got last week almost made my head fly off with potential history...
The Bubba purple kit came to me as a 13" complete drum with the 22" purple bass shell with eagle badge. There was an eagle badge matching Holiday that the seller didn't want to part with it. I had to rebuild the bass with the proper parts over time....Rogers -O you know what patience/time that takes! That is why the hoops have different inlay than purple. Proper era eagle badge hoops from a faded gold spk bass drum. I later found a purple snare that is a Luxor with an eagle badge. The early pics I scanned into the computer. Those early pics show how this kit slowly came about. I later took the floor from my other kit for the picture. Prob never find the proper eagle badge floor tom in pdp. The Bubba head was originaly on a 61 script logo sparkling silver kit 22/13/16 in the basement of an old music store here in NJ. It sat there for years because the lugs were sticking up and hanging off the bass. When I had a better understanding of how cool that head was I went back and made a deal to save the kit. It later was sold to a guy that had a sparkling silver original b+b kit in 20/12/14 with the matching wood dyna. The Bubba 22/13/16 completed every size for him to add on to his first set of drums that he had from 1961.
gotta go refill the coffee to type the yellow tank story...be back in a minute!
Peace, Gary
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5/25/2008, 8:12 am
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Gary N
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ahhh. the yellow 5pc. It was found in the late 80s by a local drum seller Frank C. from Freehold. Back then who did you call with an old Rogers kit? Bobby or Dave Drew. He called and shipped the drums to Mr. Drew. They have been in his store window on display since then. Last year I took a road trip with my local fellow Rogers nut Jeff C. to get them.
The HH pedal and bass pedal are earlier Farmingdale 40s era hardware. The kit is from the early 1950s from what I believe to be the hands/barn of Joseph Thompson-Covington OH. Like the plastic trumpet idea...3 were made. There have only been 2 rivet lug sets like this to surface at this point in time.
All 5 drums have those odd rivet lugs. Note the 5 lug tom toms 12 + 13. Same size lug on all drums. No different sizes yet...not in full production. Cherie Willo had a set like it and is still on display on her web site. She didn't know what year it was from and called it the Prodigy kit. That is the only other one that I know of.
Frank always used to ask me if I ever saw any older Rogers with these loose springs in the lugs with pins on the top and bottom of the lugs. I always looked at him like he was wearing a funny hat and said nope haven't seen any like that! He took a head off a tom to clean it and had a hard time getting the head back on. Those internal nuts fell back into the lug because the springs weren't strong to hold them in place after the tension screw was out. He remembered the patchwork on the interior tom shell construction. Always wondered about it and last year while doing the research for the NSMD article on the early Rogers years made the connection. Talked myself into attempting to make an offer to Dave to own them.
Those tom shells tapper in a half inch all around to form the bearing edge one inch smaller in round. The 12" tom meets the head at 11" round. etc. The bass and snare shells are maple and have the older Farmingdale badges.
I always remembered Frank telling me the set was found in a yard sale in Farmingdale which is the town next to Freehold where he is from. I lived in Englishtown on the other side of Freehold back in the early 90s. When I tracked Frank down last year to ask him about this old kit one more time he told me the kit came to him from a friend that he was in a weddding band with that lived in Farmingdale. His cousin had the kit in a barn out there and wanted to sell it. This was late 1980s. He lost touch with the original owner from Farmingdale. Now how did it get from a barn in OH back to NJ? I think it could of been a given to the Rogers NJ family, that Grossman got the Rogers name from, after Cleveland passed in 1952 to show what he is doing with the Rogers family name. Pure conjecture on my part for this tank of an olde Rogers kit. Have I lost my Rogers mind yet??? Still fun after all these obsessive years!
Peace, Gary
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tommykat1
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Gary, as usual, you take the cake. The vertical grain on the one drum and the patchwork finish of the other are both stunners.
I can't get enough of this old Rogers history. There is a book here, and you are writing it. Please don't stop writing...
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rogerwdowns
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I concur! Thanks for you perspective! PDP is one of my favs! To be sure! 
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