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Ohhhh dats shiney

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T Rod, I don't think I have any secrets. I polished the wrap with Novus. No.2 seems to make the most differences, which is what others say as well.
I put the chrome in a bath of Oxalic Acid overnight. Freely available in the UK but more of a problem in the US I understand. A lot of the hardware was beyond help though so took parts off another set.
The English Dyna I got with this set came up well .......

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That's tits, Nut Box! Beautiful. I'd love to have that drum, as would any of us yanks. Good on ya!
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When I got the Blue Ripple Sparkle set that was sent to me from Sweden by Borsaida I cleaned it up and set it up like this……………….

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However having given it a little thought I no longer think that this is correct. The bass drum has a USA swivo collet plate top centre of the bass drum and another on the 13x9 that for various reasons which I won’t go into now was probably added by the dealer. No swivo tom arms came with the kit, I added my own for the photo above. What did come with it was this…………….

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Borsaida suggested that it was a cow bell holder, which seems reasonable on first inspection. However it would require a collet plate mounted to a vertical surface. The only vertical surface I can think of would be the floor tom, but there is no collet plate there. In fact there are no collets on the kit where this can be put that would render it of any use at all. Maybe your all ahead of me by now but then I looked through the catalogues and found this……………………..

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So, it looks like this kit originally had an early double tom holder with it. According to the Rogers book these were available between 1962 and 1964. My kit is 1966/67. I assume that the holder lay around either in the dealers workshop or at Ajax until it was used for this kit. The first catalogue in 1961 mentions a twin holder being available but there is no picture and no double tom kits were ever offered in the catalogues. So, all a bit disappointing until yesterday when I hit the wrong button and brought up one of my saved searches by mistake and there it was.

Twin Holder

The seller didn’t want to do international shipping but they often will if you ask nicely. This is going to look cool. Can’t wait.


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Wonderful luck, my friend. Can't wait to see the finished setup. These drums are soooo beautiful!

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Nutbox, 62-64 is off for the correct time frame they used that double tom arm and mount. The 67 Dayton catalog shows the newer version. The old one varied a bit in the cluster 3 knobbies either being in a row or in a triangle form. Great story, restoration and rare finish! Beautiful!!! Thanks for sharing that. Did I mention I like that finish?!? Peace, Gary
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I think it was also known as a "Top Hat."
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Thanks guys.
Gary, can't find it in the 67 catalogue on here but you say "Dayton" so probably different. But like TK says found it listed in equipment included with Top Hat set in the 1965 catalogue. Hidden in the picture but listed as "Swivo tom holder 365R" which is the knobby twin tom holder.
So, that makes it contemporary with the drums which is even better.
Gary, have I bought the later version then, with the knobbies being more spread out? (I'm guessing I have, cos the one arranged in a tighter cluster appears to use the earlier shape swivo ball joint.)
Thanks all.

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Anything knobby or Swivo should be from 1958 and up. I have to check the catalogs to see when the change was made for the 3 in a row to 3 in a triangle form. The triangle cluster came with my 5pc 20/12/12/16 top hat, early Swivo, purple diamond outfit from the farm many years ago. I don't think the earlier double mount, on a 66/67 set, would be seen as "wrong" because they used up all the stock. Not sure what parts are proper or offered on Rogers from over there...but I do like that set a lot. Great set!
 Peace, Gary

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Quick update. The twin tom holder arrived this am and it is great. Turned out the seller was our own Magwa! He was very helpful arranging the shipping etc. Thanks to Magwa.
Best thing is that the tom arms exactly match the one that I already have, which means that this is likely the very same type of holder that was originally on the set.
I'll get a proper set of heads before I get it all set up and take more photos. Stand by.............

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