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Uncle Servo

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A Question of Scale

Okay, one of the announcements that was made during the recent schism between Frank and the forums was that the deckplan scales were going to be converted from Imperial to Metric units. Fortunately, yellow scale is pretty much already in metric as the scale is roughly 1 pixel = 1 cm.

That leaves red scale (1 pixel = 1 inch) and blue scale (1 pixel = 2 inches).

Frank appeared to have followed a doubling pattern when originally creating the scales... so I would suggest following a similar approach for the new conversions:

Yellow Scale: 1 pixel = 1 cm. Leave as is.
Red Scale: 1 pixel = 2 cm.
Blue Scale: 1 pixel = 4 cm.

The difference between this and the existing scales wouldn't be monumental -- red would go from 12 pixels/foot to 15 and blue would go from 6 to 7.5 pixels/foot -- but if this is approved by the membership then the question becomes do we re-draw all ships currently in process or simply start all new ships in the new scale?

Feedback everyone, por favor... emoticon

5/10/2006, 7:13 am

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Re: A Question of Scale

blue equals 20 pixels : 1 metre
Red equals 40 pixels : 1 metre
Yellow equals 100 pixels : 1 metre

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5/10/2006, 7:30 am

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Leave it as Lucas postet, i say.

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5/10/2006, 7:54 am

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Re: A Question of Scale

what Eric is saying is essentially the same as what I said, but it is better to measure in metres rather then centimetres, for the sake of consistency

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5/10/2006, 7:58 am

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20 pixels = 1m is 1 pixel = 5cm and not 4cm. So it is not exactly the same, Lucas. emoticon

Oh man... can of worms... I remember that this question had been been addressed around the time I joined. I wish it could have been solved at that time. Would have saved us a lot of trouble... emoticon

But it doesn't matter. We are an international and multicultural community. We can't work with scales that are more or less completely obsolete.

blue equals 20 pixels : 1 metre
Red equals 40 pixels : 1 metre
Yellow equals 100 pixels : 1 metre

Sounds good to me. 19,7 pixels per metre would fit the old blue scale better, but then it would be completely senseless to switch to metric. 20 is much better.

Much more important is the other question. What will we do with the existing ships? Adjust them? Thats about half the work of building them in the first place. Accept the deviation and stick to the new scale for new projects exclusively?

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5/10/2006, 8:14 am

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I think that due to the fact that there are already so many ships out there wit h the old system, adjusting all the ships to fit the new reference, is not really a priority....at least not yet.

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5/10/2006, 8:30 am

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Re: A Question of Scale

Well the "error" would be only 30Pixel on a Ship with 90m Length. Basically it would be 1.5m to short, or an Error Margin of 1.66666%.

One could try to stretch some Ships, that wouldn't be that much work, though it might result in different Looks (not much).

5/10/2006, 8:36 am

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I say leave the older ships alone for now. Lets work on finishing ships that we still have in the yard, then when time permits an individual in this community can go back and stretch the older ships to fit the new scale.

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5/10/2006, 8:41 am

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Re: A Question of Scale

indeed.

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5/10/2006, 8:44 am

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Re: A Question of Scale

As long as we stay belog 5% error margin, our work can almost be considered perfect. Always keep in mind that most length stats are not absolutely true anyway.

Take the Nella 342 for example. Sure, we have a length stat, but who made that stat? What did he think when he did it? If he used the Millenium Falcon as reference, for example... emoticon

Well, we know where that ends up.

An error margin of less than 5% is almost nothing and without any relevance. As someone stated before, even Traveller worked with almost 10% error margin and that is much much more than the few pixels we might be off every now and then. emoticon

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5/10/2006, 9:01 am

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