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Lucas P
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the meaning of the letter T in TIE is subjective. ultimately, it doesn't matter what anyone of us thinks it is, as we didn't create it.
all of us are entitled to call it Titties In Ears if we want...and if that makes sense to anyone here, then I pity you...but in any case, it just illustrates my point, and what I think is what Paul is trying to say and that is that the designations of the TIE series fighters is not based in known military parlance and therefore to those of us who understand fundamentals of military nomenclature is "stupid".
Who said that TIE stands for Twin Ion Engine in the first place? it's not in the movies, so TIE itself can mean something else, like Tactical Interceptor Empire, which is military parlance and fits with the ships' role in the universe.
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11/9/2005, 7:14 am
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Boomer Tiro
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Yes becuase the cultures in Star Wars all adhere to human earth military standards...
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11/9/2005, 7:16 am
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Lucas P
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yes, because fundamentally, Star Wars was created by a man who lives here on earth. It is fiction.
--- Only 2 things are infinite; The Universe, and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein
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11/9/2005, 7:20 am
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Boomer Tiro
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A man who admitedly was creating a Buck Rodgers ripoff with scenes and elements stolen from Dune.
Man we can bash this around all day... let's!
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11/9/2005, 7:29 am
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Lucas P
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Now that we agree with the origins of SW, we can move forward.
TIE
What does it stand for?
TWIN ION ENGINE is a possibility because it is stated in all of the reference material, although the origin of this designation eludes me, and does not hold with conventional nomenclature for aircraft. TIE does not mean jet because in this designation ION or ENGINE is jet, and apparently there are two of them, and that just sounds stoopid.
Why is Vader's ship a TIE, his has FOUR engines...shouldn't it be a QIE?
TIE in my opinion stands more for it's role than it's method of propulsion. Tactical Interceptor, Empire is elegant and encompasses it's role and it's purpose for the entire fleet of TIE designated craft.
just my 2 cents.
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11/9/2005, 7:55 am
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 At last I speak
Perhaps its not the fact that TIE fighters have two "LEDs" sticking out back that make the them "Twin Ion Engine".
I was remaining silent hoping Paul would have the epiphany, but its time to speak.
The word "Twin" may apply to the process not the number of thrusters. Perhaps most Ion Engines in the SWU use only one type of "Ion" for propulsion or a SIE (Single Ion Engine) thruster. The TIE thruster marries two different types of Ion to produce a radical and more powerful thrust in a very small package. The two types of Ions form the "Twin" in the acronym "TIE".
Ponder this my brethren, and share your thoughts. 
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11/9/2005, 8:06 am
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Lucas P
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why?
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11/9/2005, 8:07 am
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Boomer Tiro
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This is true. Most vessels have one engine type, no matter the number of engines.
It would make a lot of sense that the TIE has more than one.
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11/9/2005, 8:14 am
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Damn. Luc and Frank both have good ideas. Damn. I like both of them.
Wonder what other words we could tack onto the end of Tactical Interceptor? Of course using Empire implies other militaries may be using the SFS fighters. Does seem to be hegemonies that the Empire has yet to annex, yet it is doubtful that SFS would sell them TIEs, and therefor the Empire wouldn't require a specific suffix to indicate "these TIs are ours."
The Official site does mention micro-accelerators to give added boost. I can't speculate the feasibilty of a hybrid of today's ion thrusters, but we can make a leap of faith and say the SW technology is there. But I think you're talking one engine nacelle with two differing types of ion thrusters mounted inside, perhaps one with a fixed specific impulse and another with a variable.
Humm. . .
See Boomer, this is how its done. Lucas and Frank both disagree about my acronym suggestion, but have given other solutions and ideas. And I think they both are better ideas than mine.
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11/9/2005, 2:05 pm
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Boomer Tiro
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Oh, because I was not helping?
I propose to you this. The naming conventions for our aircraft in the military are nothing like the naming conventions for aircraft in the civillian world, in another military, or four our militaries other vehicles.
Move it to another nations civilian vehicles, craft nothing alike, there is also a seemingly alien naming convention. Change time periods, our own military is using entirely diffrent nomenclature for the propellor aircraft.
Now move to an entirely diffrent time period in a diffrent galaxy... why must they conform to 21st century earth military aircraft naming standards?
A name is a made up word for an object or fictional noun, and the conventions and styles for naming things is inherent upon language and culture.
Ultimately I agree with an earlier point of Lucas, it really doesn't matter. It is called what it is called because that is what was agreed for it to be called.
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11/9/2005, 3:52 pm
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