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The VOID
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So, if I understand you correctly, we need about a dozen specialised threads, in which we will eventually find out that Star Wars and real-world physics does not match very well in a lot of cases.
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5/21/2006, 4:09 am
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Re: Periodic Table
I consider Star Wars to be more "Technical" Fiction, or Fantasy. Although technology is dependant on science, in SW the science is so mysterious and oftimes in violation of physics that it seems dismissed. My definition of tech-fi is science fiction/fantasy that has a lot of technology that operates often in apparent violation of known natural laws, that said technology is a neccesary component of the storytelling, such that if that technology were removed or replaced, or adhered to known natural law, it would alter the story away from the orginal intent of the author(s).
If we try to force SW into the hard sci-fi realm, we negate it.
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5/21/2006, 10:46 am
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Re: Periodic Table
Normal matter as charted in the Periodic Table is matter whose protons and neutrons (baryons) are composed of 1st Family quarks of the Up and Down flavors. The 2nd and 3rd Families of quarks created in high energy accelerators are respectively Strange and Charmed, Top and Bottom. Any matter comprised of these quarks is exotic matter--but bear in mind, not the only kind.
The stabilty of such matter would be in question due to the fact that the universe desires the lowest energy states possible, hence the abundance of up and down quark baryons in the "colder" expanses of the universe. In higher energy domains, such a neutron stars, strange quarks may exist naturally.
The other four quarks also have different masses, most of them considerably higher than the normal two, and thus would make baryons with different properties than protons and neutrons, which means any hypothetical atoms created by them would not be part of the Periodic Table and would reside in their own table.
As far as my limited understanding goes, such matter wouldn't be stable at low energies--energies at which they could be utilized--and couldn't be used for any practical purpose.
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The VOID
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Re: Periodic Table
The question that would really interest me to get an answer to, is: What exactly is the intention of this whole topic?
1. We are all aware of the existence of the periodic table.
2. We all know how it works.
3. Star Wars violates known science in dozens of areas.
Since we do not need to discuss the existence of the periodic table, what exactly do we get from this thread to make it worth the discussion? The degree to which scientific method and known laws of nature are applicable to fictional worlds like Star Wars is a completely different topic, that has nothing to do with the periodic table. I would be delighted, if someone can help me with that question. 
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5/21/2006, 4:03 pm
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So do we draw the quarks in red or blue scale?
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5/21/2006, 4:44 pm
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We would use a new scale yet to be developed. Something like 1,000,000,000 pixels to the cm.
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5/21/2006, 6:05 pm
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Boomer Tiro
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Re: Periodic Table
Paul, I appreciate the effort. ...but the quark thing, really it's own subject as well.
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1. We are all aware of the existence of the periodic table.
True
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2. We all know how it works.
False.
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3. Star Wars violates known science in dozens of areas.
Dozens? That many? And you are bringing them up in this thread... why?
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Since we do not need to discuss the existence of the periodic table, what exactly do we get from this thread to make it worth the discussion?
Not trying to prove it exists. Trying to discuss how it works.
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The degree to which scientific method and known laws of nature are applicable to fictional worlds like Star Wars is a completely different topic, that has nothing to do with the periodic table.
And yet you keep bringing it up...
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So, if I understand you correctly, we need about a dozen specialised threads, in which we will eventually find out that Star Wars and real-world physics does not match very well in a lot of cases.
No, we need a diffrent thread for diffrent subjects. Like all the areas Star Wars violates physics, I'd love to see the total number. That would be a fun discussion.
But it has nothing to do with the periodic table and applying it to Star Wars.
For the most part, Star Wars is vague. Not violating a thing. This thread is not intended to be the end all anyway. It's just one area, chemistry. Why bring up anything else?
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5/21/2006, 6:52 pm
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psCargile
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Re: Periodic Table
VOID, you don't have to post in topics you find irrelevant.
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5/21/2006, 6:52 pm
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Boomer Tiro
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psCargile wrote:
VOID, you don't have to post in topics you find irrelevant.
Yeah that sounds about right. To be more specific, I would appreciate VOID staying on subject, and if he feels the need to bring up a million other things he can begin his own thread.
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5/21/2006, 6:59 pm
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psCargile
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Re: Periodic Table
No Boomer, the quark thing is explaining one type of exotic matter that someone questioned. Plus I'm using it to support you in your accessment that explaing SW tech shouldn't violate chemistry.
Gees. . . 
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