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Re: Life Support systems
We can agree that the mechanism could be anything at all, but how big is it, how long will it work, what extra consumables does it need to run. That's what we need.
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7/19/2006, 2:32 pm
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Re: Life Support systems
In the system I proposed, air would not be as big a problem as food and water. ie You would either starve or dehydrate first.
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7/19/2006, 3:26 pm
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Keep in mind to make all calculations with the oxygen consumption in extreme stress situations. You can not expect those inside an escape pod to be calm.
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7/19/2006, 4:48 pm
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Re: Life Support systems
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Lucas P wrote:
Stemming from a discussion regarding life support in an escape pod and then progressing to the time it might have taken for Qui Gon and Obi Wan to swim to the gungan city in Episodee One, we have been discussing their use of the little 'things' they put in their mouths.
Ultimately this led to us trying to determine the limits of life support technology in Star Wars.
Also remember the "breath masks" that Han and Leia wore in "the cave" in E5.
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7/19/2006, 6:38 pm
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Re: Life Support systems
One more note:
What we should do here is to determine, how small life support systems CAN be. NOT how big they actually are. Like almost any kind of world specific technology, things are as big, as they need to be. Not only to do theyr job, but also to look credible, look good and fit the story. We can only determine a minimum size. Actual size is up to individual artists.
--- "The sand people are easily startled, but they will soon be back, and in greater numbers." — Obi-Wan Kenobi
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7/19/2006, 7:25 pm
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Re: Life Support systems
indeed.
So it appears that the life support systems can be extremely efficient, compact and reliable.
The only thing that would really be a consideration is how long a pod could be in space or an inhospitable environment which would require the occupants to consume all the life support...without being able to replenish it.
So can we figure on what would be considered a standard amount of time that life can be sustained in one of these things per occupant?
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7/19/2006, 7:26 pm
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Re: Life Support systems
Solid info from Star Wars Triglogy Sourcebook, Special Edition. WEG source material.
Clipped from pages 115 and 116.
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7/19/2006, 7:35 pm
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Re: Life Support systems
Then we have restocking from Tramp Freighters.
Clipped from pages 30 and 31.
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7/19/2006, 7:38 pm
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Re: Life Support systems
No, we can't.
Such things are influenced by design philosphy, designer, manufacturer, specific design, local laws and so on and so on.
There will be escape pods, with enough air support to keep you breathing beyond the point where you are starting to starve, or die of thirst.
There will be escape pods, with air support limited to the time you can survive in it before you starve.
There will be escape pods, with air support limited to the time you can survive in it before you die from dehydration.
There will be escape pods, with air support limited to the time you can survive in it before getting nuts.
There will be escape pods with enough air support to safely land you on a planet.
Endless list. There can be one person pods with onboard food for two days, but air for weeks and there can be huge twenty-person pods with hardly enough life support to survive one day.
You can't standardise it, based solely on possibility facts.
Any life support time beyond 2 days is most likely completely useless, as is anything below 2 hours. If the pod is supposed to land on a planet, the time to reach the planet and land is enough. If it is supposed to keep you alive in space until rescue comes, the time in which rescue will come, if it comes at all, is enough. If nobody misses, finds and rescues you after two days adrift, they will not find you much later anyway.
Every cubic inch of space inside an escape pod not wasted on systems, that will not keep you alive eventually can be spent on systems that do. Stronger ermergency beacon, better stabilizers, stronger thrusters, more fuel, more survival equipment, more comfortable seats and so on and so on. Eventually, there will also be cuts to make them cheaper. Look at the prizes of those pods in the WEG sources. They are ridiculously cheap. Nobody manufactures SOTA gear into pods that cheap.
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7/19/2006, 7:39 pm
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Xynar
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Re: Life Support systems
And finally fuel converters from Tramp Freighters as well.
Clipped from pages 41 and 42.
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7/19/2006, 7:40 pm
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