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Lucas P
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Re: CEC Escort-design
quick question, how is that sensor / comms fish supposed to work with that big hull section in the way?
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9/9/2006, 3:49 pm
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Shadow Industries
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Re: CEC Escort-design
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quick question, how is that sensor / comms fish supposed to work with that big hull section in the way?
whats a sensor/comms FISH 
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9/9/2006, 4:19 pm
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WardenWolf
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Re: CEC Escort-design
I don't really see the placement of the dish as a problem.
Firstly, it's likely not the only comm array, especially on a ship this size.
Secondly, if the crew really needed to use the dish to send/receive signals along the forward axis of motion, then they could just yaw the whole ship with the attitudinals. Inertia will make sure they stay on course...
Thirdly, most of that array's work is going to be done in every arc except the frontal. My reasoning is this - if it's a gunship, they'll want to communicate with home or other ships in the fleet (not likely to be in front); if it's a courier they'll be using the nearest realay to bounce the signal, also likely to not be directly in line with the forward axis...
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9/9/2006, 4:35 pm
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Lucas P
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Re: CEC Escort-design
Sorry for typo. I was really hungover this morning and I was thinking of something else and 'F' is next to 'D' on the keyboard.
Jake, I really like your explanation of the positioning of the dish, but I am afraid that I disagree with that analysis.
1) all ships in starwars that have those dishes, have them unobstructed by hull components.
2) a command and control ship would not be ahead of the battle fleet, it would be behind it, and therefore, the dish would require an unobstructed view.
3) turning the ship so that the dish can "see" is silly and needlessly complicated, especially during combat maneuvres, due to the obvious occasional obstruction of the hull. It is a huge blindspot.
To solve this, I would suggest either a third centrally mounted engine, or a hull extension, rather than just putting the dish on a tall tower type structure. Another solution could be that the sensor dish could be vertically extendable...but this would use up a lot of internal space - which is always at a premium.
Of course, the resulting problem is the obstruction of the laser turrets...so perhaps additional side mounted cannons on the mid superstructure would solve that.
regards,
Lucas
Last edited by Lucas P, 9/9/2006, 4:49 pm
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9/9/2006, 4:48 pm
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PhoenixM
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Re: CEC Escort-design
I'm going to suggest against a third engine, too Republic Cruiser looking. This IS suppose to be a smaller cousin design yes, but that would make it to close (like a little sister). The hull extension concept really makes the ship look odd. We can see though, it might just be me.
Extendable...might make for a worthwhile corporate experiment...it's a thought.
Side mounted weapons would cause more of a weapon blind spot, the aft, the engines (and maybe the hull) would be in the way.
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9/9/2006, 5:09 pm
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WardenWolf
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Re: CEC Escort-design
I agree in principle, but realize that this ship is only about 40 meters long. That's not even twice as long as the Falcon. I think that if you still see the current location of the dish as a problem, then an alternative would be to either place the comms array on the side of the vessel, or to face the array aft and to embed another (perhaps smaller) array in the sloping bow. That would kill two birds with one stone - fix the comms problem and allow an unobstructed field of fire for the two optimally placed turrets...
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9/9/2006, 5:20 pm
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Slay1
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Re: CEC Escort-design
How about designing an Omni-Directional dish. Something like the ISD's only smaller.
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9/9/2006, 5:32 pm
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WardenWolf
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Re: CEC Escort-design
Slay, the rectenna would still have to contend with the mass shadow of the ship...everywhere the ship was, the comms wouldn't see through.
No, I think this ship is definately going to need two arrays (whatever they look like) and the one at the bow may not be visible from the side or top views...only the internal views...
- Jake
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9/9/2006, 5:37 pm
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Slay1
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Re: CEC Escort-design
Why? No other ships have multiple arrays. Or am I wrong?
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9/9/2006, 5:42 pm
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WardenWolf
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Re: CEC Escort-design
The issue is not wheather other ships have multiple arrays, but wheather this ship needs mmultiple arrays. Having an omnidirectional rectenna doesn't solve the problem of where to place the rectenna, and the pertinent concerns are unobstructed comms as well as weapons fire arcs. So we also simply can't move the one array (unless you placed the thing on the side, but then you wouldn't be able to talk to ships on the other side, so no-go)
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9/9/2006, 5:57 pm
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