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And here is the small surprise pop-up-gun.

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I think THAT could fit a ship like the falcon better. Should roughly be equivalent to an E-Web.

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And even smaller:

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 As Monty Burns would say.....

  Excellent!

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More BANG for the (star-)buck:

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Last one for today. This twin-turret is equipped with two double-shot proton torpedo launchers. Short launcher barrel limits use to short and medium combat ranges. Instead of the proton torpedo tubes, 8-shot anti-fighter concussion missiles can be installed. Reloading must be done manually from outside.

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Oh and just keep in mind, that almost any kind of turret has roughly twice its height with a diameter of its rotation base beneath it under the hull, where rotation servos, power supply, coolant circulation, targeting hardware, energy control and maintainance access are housed! So you can't install a turret anywhere on the hull you like without sacrificing internal space and having to mess with what was there before.

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those are nice turret designs, I particularly like the last one.

However, I do not agree entirely with your assessment of the amount of space needed for component parts like the motors for moving the turret. A modern tank turret has the motors for the rotation of the turret and elevation of the gun in the turret to make room in the body of the tank itself, which is mostly storage space for the ammo. Considering that these weapons don't use ammunition in the strictest sense, I don't think that they would use up all that much internal hull space.


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Oh, just the contrary. Tanks have the advantage to use chemical propellants. Thats about as simple as killing anything on a distance gets. All energy weapons are much more complicated, no matter how far evolved they are. Power might come from a central reactor of the ship, but power alone is not enough to fire an energy weapon. You need massive capacitators to build up enough to fire a shot. For the equivalent of a blaster shot you'd need a warehouse full of humming capacitators today, so I think it is really nice to assume, that this warehouse fits into less than a cubic meter in the Star Wars Galaxy. So an energy weapon, be it a blaster, a laser or a turbolaser, really needs space for its ammunition in the strictest sense. The capacitators of a light ship cannon have to be bigger than a heavy backpack, because otherwise people would carry it as backpack and have light and medium shipscale weapons as infantry arms, even if it is just for a few shots.

All Star Wars sources that I have at hand (all the cross-section books, essential guides and so on) indicate that the subsystems of such weapons are indeed relatively big. Remember, Star Wars is not real-world extrapolated science-fiction. It is science-fantasy in a futuristic galaxy based on the perspective of our 70's, with a heavy WWII influence. The energy banks, fire control and other subsystems of a turbolaser battery on an imperial stardestroyer are, according to my sources, about 3 times as massive as the turret itself! Also keep in mind that, besides droids, shipcomputers tend to be really big in Star Wars. Not in E1-E3, but thats (literally) a whole different story.

So approximatly twice the height of the turret with a depth of its socket diamater is not that much. Keep in mind that you are not necessarily forced to place it vertically directly under the turret. You can spred it out a bit and if you have multiple turrets close to each other, certain subsystems will overlap. For example fire control computers and coolant pumps.

Of course this only counts for bigger weapons installations and not for micro pop-up-turrets and guns. Those are pretty much shake and bake. You put them anywhere you want, hook them up and you are done.

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Hm... I think it would be good, if a moderator could put this discussion elsewhere. Technical discussion, I would think. Perhaps it even fits this one.

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Some assorted missiles with concussion warheads.

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Edit: I decided to use blue for concussion missiles, so that they can be told apart from proton torpedos.

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