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Starfield Z-10 Seeker
A big thank to Frank for the scans, and here we go on a new project. The ships of StarField, the Z-10 Seeker and the ZH-25 Questor. It's pretty obvious that these ships share severl components and were most likely constructed using a modular system (and thus they will be built as such)
The Z-10 Seeker
And it's bigger brother; the ZH-25 Questor
Well, there they are. I'd greatly appreciate anybodys observations and ideas. As for the construction process Frank, in his infinite wisdom wants the center section that the two ships share to be built first (and he's right, don't know why I didn't make the connection myself). FOr those not getting what I mean, this is the section the two ships share (well and those funky shaped cargo pods).
As of right now, my biggest concern is the area around the front of the center module, where it meets the ****pit section. What is up with all those little squares? Do they represent some component or just a lazy artist?
So here we go, please post ideas/opinions here and stay tuned for further updates.
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 Re: Starfield Z-10 Seeker and ZH-25 Questor
Tim its my pleasure to help.
Take a long hard look EVERYONE at the Z-10's, and ZH-25's scan from the STAR WARS Adventure Journal #5. You will notice the main fuselage was reused 4 times. This fuselage was used 3 times on the Questor, and once on the Seeker. If you build this module once, you have completed 90% of the exterior work. Once built, all you have to do is add accessories to build the Z-10, and join 3 modules together to build the ZH-25. There is even the potential of making modular ships from these deckplans, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.
I took the liberty of scaling the ships for you. The ZH-25 is 22.4 meters long, or 441 pixels long in Blue scale. The Z-10 is 20.3 meters long, or 400 pixels long in Blue scale. I scaled the fuselage pod module with the ****pit end removed and it comes to 360 pixels long. The ZH-25 caps the center module with a ****pit, and caps the other two modules with blanks.
The first thing you need to do is build the fuselage module, and build it all by itself. Do a top front and side view please. After that, we will build the rest. Do not even worry about the interior till the EXTERIOR is done first. You will find things do not line up from the top and side views of Tim Bobko's drawings. Tim Bobko was clueless when it came to the third dimension, but we can do better.
The squares on the "neck" connector are the work of a lazy artist, a.k.a. Tim Bobko. I have Andrew working on the HT-2200, another of Bobko’s masterpieces, and he cant get anything to line up at all. As for this fuselage pod module, start with the largest structures first and work your way down to smaller details. Almost everything will need to be lined up, and most details on the side do not appear on the top. Go slow and focus on turning this disaster into a 3 dimensional object.
The SWAJ images came first, and should form your primary evidence. Only if it is possible try to use the images from "Stock Ships" to resolve any design problems. Eventually we can try to integrate some the "Stock Ships" features into this model if it is even possible.
I encourage ALL to help “Hothy” as much as possible. If you need anything let me know. 
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12/4/2005, 10:27 pm
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Re: Starfield Z-10 Seeker and ZH-25 Questor
On the colour pictures, in the area behind the ****pit, there is definitly a component making the surface of the hull uneven but it doesn't look at all like that jumble of squares on the other designs. It looks like the artist decided to create lots of squares rather than drawing out the component.
Also, on the Questor, it appears that the shared fuselage on the port side appears to be a mirror image to the central and starboard fuselages. This can be noticed with the two oval shaped things opposite each other on each of the fuselages and on the detailing of the hull.
I think it would be a wast of money to build to different designs (one a mirror image of the other) for the ships. It looks like the artist wanted to make the ship look more symmetrical and flipped the section for the port side.
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 Good thinking
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On the color pictures, in the area behind the ****pit, there is definitely a component making the surface of the hull uneven but it doesn't look at all like that jumble of squares on the other designs. It looks like the artist decided to create lots of squares rather than drawing out the component.
This may be an opportunity to use the "Stock Ships" influence on the project. Good work "50"!!!
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I think it would be a waste of money to build to different designs (one a mirror image of the other) for the ships. It would be much cheaper to use only one design for all the shared sections. It looks like the artist wanted to make the ship look more symmetrical and flipped the section for the port side.
The ovals I believe are sensors. It may be a good idea to make the fuselage pod modules symmetrical to save on production costs and sanity for that matter. Again “50" scores!!!
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12/4/2005, 10:42 pm
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Re: Starfield Z-10 Seeker and ZH-25 Questor
My observation skills rule!
I agree about symmetry, on the Seeker the 'sensor pods' actually look very symmetrical. I don't know why they look so uneven in Tim Bobko's drawings. 0_o
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I don't know why they look so uneven in Tim Bobko's drawings. 0_o
Mind altering substances come to mind.
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12/4/2005, 10:59 pm
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Re: Starfield Z-10 Seeker and ZH-25 Questor
Thanks guys, very helpful so far, So, if I were to make the pods symmetrical that'd be cool with everybody? Also if they were to be evened up, were should would be best? Using the SS picture as a quide, I was thinking that the position of the more forward one would be best.
With such a quick response on one issue, time to move to another. Whats up with all the CEC style cocpits on non-CEC designs? Is StarField a Corellian company? spin-off group of CEC? it's designers blatant rip-off artists?
I'll probaly start drawing tommorow, so maybe an update mid top late week.
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12/4/2005, 11:04 pm
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Re: Starfield Z-10 Seeker and ZH-25 Questor
It would seem that there is something Corellian about Starfield Industries.
As well as the ****pit, there is this line from the capsule of the Questor: "Arms and armor were a real shortcoming in the Z-10 parent model. The BlasTech Prim-3 lasers were completely replaced with Taim and Bak pulse lasers, a favorite in Corellian-designed ships..."
This is pretty circumstantial however.
Source
EDIT: Yes, this is definitly just a coincidence..
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Re: Starfield Z-10 Seeker and ZH-25 Questor
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Thanks guys, very helpful so far, So, if I were to make the pods symmetrical that'd be cool with everybody?
Yes, for sure.
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Also if they were to be evened up, were should would be best? Using the SS picture as a guide, I was thinking that the position of the more forward one would be best.
Excellent, and again the "Stock Ships" reference helped us.
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With such a quick response on one issue, time to move to another. Whats up with all the CEC style ****pits on non-CEC designs?
1. Tim Bobko was lazy.
2. They look different enough not to be CEC at all.
3. The HT-2200 will loose its Bobko ****pit and get a YT-1300 ****pit properly scaled.
4. Draw them as is, they are now Starfield parts.
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Is StarField a Corellian company? spin-off group of CEC? it's designers blatant rip-off artists?
No Starfield is its own company. Think about how many cars on the road today look alike, yet they are made by completely different companies. They are slightly different from the YT-1300 ****pit, but they also look similar to the Nova-Drive ****pit on the 3-Z. Good designs are often mimicked.
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I'll probably start drawing tomorrow, so maybe an update mid top late week.
Excellent, I look forward to it, and keep the questions coming. I have been studying these ships for years ,and I have a lot of answers. 
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12/4/2005, 11:42 pm
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Hothy
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Re: Starfield Z-10 Seeker and ZH-25 Questor
Update time!!
Two versions of the centrasl section, top view only.
The first version DOES NOT include the raised section found on the Z-10 and the OUTER sections of the ZH-25.
The second section DOES included the raised section.
I'm planning to use the second version across the board; as I feel teh lack of a raised section on the center module is mainly due to bad art. (Whe didn't WEG use better artists?)
As always feedback is encouraged and welcomed.
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