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Lucas P
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Re: Nella Series - Regenesis/Degenesis
good man Void. 
--- Only 2 things are infinite; The Universe, and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein
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3/8/2006, 1:58 pm
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Uncle Servo
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Re: Nella Series - Regenesis/Degenesis
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Lucas P wrote:
are we sure this thing has only one deck?
There's nothing in the capsule that says it specifically, but I personally can't imagine a good reason why a 30 meter ship that's only rated at 50 tons would need more than one deck. It'd be interesting if it someone could come up with a good reason though.
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3/8/2006, 2:05 pm
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Witzig
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Re: Nella Series - Regenesis/Degenesis
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Uncle Servo wrote:
There's nothing in the capsule that says it specifically, but I personally can't imagine a good reason why a 30 meter ship that's only rated at 50 tons would need more than one deck. It'd be interesting if it someone could come up with a good reason though.
Well this Ship only carries 50 metric Tons, but 5 Passengers, those alone take up a good portition of room.
I just though about making some rough calculations on the tons/m³ of Cargo Space Ratio on the Ships already present on the SWDA Site but those are just rough Figures 
Sorosuub Nyubba Barge: 200tons/1,000m³ = 0.2 tons/m³
Ghtroc 720: 135tons/1,000m³ = 0.135 tons/m³
Ghtroc Empress: 50,000tons/10,000m³ = 5 tons/m³
Novoil/Ghtroc Countess: 11,000tons/4,500m³ = 2.44 tons/m³
Novoil/Ghtroc Duchess: 30,000tons/7,500m³ = 4 tons/m³
Gymsnor-3: 95tons/120m³ = 0.791 tons/m³
Nova-Drive 3-Z: 150tons/400m³ = 0.375 tons/m³
Nest Class: 136tons/200m³ = 0.68 tons/m³
The current Nella has roughly 100m³ thus 0.5 tons/m³.
So using the above Examples the nella could have somewhere between 50 to 370m³ of Cargo Space.
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3/8/2006, 2:41 pm
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The VOID
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Re: Nella Series - Regenesis/Degenesis
Well, a stylistic reason for more than one deck would be that most of the other burger+olive ships have just one deck. It distinguishes.
Another thing is windows. I like windows. Most ships don't have them and since most ships have some kind of shielding I see no safety issues for that. In fact it really keeps you from getting mad on long trips, if you can look out a window in your cabin. Since there are just stars or hyperspace outside, it helps to see the upper deck of the hull to get a feeling of not beeing lost in endless space. It is also easier to isolate the cabins rooms from the noise of the engines when they are not directly adjacent to each other and putting them on another deck reduces the problem of splitting the cargo room into useless fractions.
Howeer, the most important reason for me would be that it is different and would look nice.
--- "The sand people are easily startled, but they will soon be back, and in greater numbers." — Obi-Wan Kenobi
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3/8/2006, 2:51 pm
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50stone
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Re: Nella Series - Regenesis/Degenesis
When I first saw your silhoette I thought "Hmm that'd look like a great starship from the side", I made a few sketchs cutting away the bulge and it does you know.
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3/8/2006, 3:10 pm
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Uncle Servo
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Re: Nella Series - Regenesis/Degenesis
Hmmm...
I wonder what kind of look you'd get if the ****pit tube wasn't a tube at all, but angular/squared off... and the angled parts combined with it to form its own deck, above the more rounded 'burger bun' lower deck devoted totally to cargo space?
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3/8/2006, 5:13 pm
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Quint89
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Re: Nella Series - Regenesis/Degenesis
Red scale does not seem too unreasonable (after all the Stinger is 28m). Though, surely this is up to Void... (if it’s too big for the site it can be resized after).
Probably too early for this discussion, considering the talk of some radical changes ahead ???
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3/8/2006, 5:16 pm
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The VOID
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Re: Nella Series - Regenesis/Degenesis
No, I think the scale question is important, since I will make most of my sketches and concepts in that scale. I could work with both. Big means more freedom with tiny details, small means less work. Both fine with me. To be honest, high detail is in fact esier, since reduction is work intensive and many shapes are fare better to press into pixels with more pixels at hand.
However, high command said blue scale, iirc, so if there is no change, I consider that as decided.
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3/8/2006, 6:33 pm
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Uncle Servo
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Re: Nella Series - Regenesis/Degenesis
I thought of something this morning (while waiting for the alarm clock to go off) that might help in the design visualization process...
As the Nella series of freighters are made by SoroSuub, it might be a good thing to look at some of their other products and hopefully get a feel for some of their overall design characteristics. So far I have the following:
- Nyubba-class cargo barge driver & module ("Chubby Gundark")
- Nestt-class light freighter ("Miv'ra Firestorm")
- Starmite-class light freighter ("Bria")
- Quasar Fire-class bulk cruiser ("Flurry")
- 3000-class personal luxury yacht ("Lady Luck")
- Horizon-class star yacht ("Jade Shadow")
- 200-class personal luxury cruiser
- Cutlass-9-class patrol fighter ("Sharp Spiral")
- Preybird-class starfighter ("Raptor," "Skyclaw")
- V-35 Courier landspeeder (Lars Family's)
- X-34 landspeeder (Luke's)
- XP-38 sport landspeeder
- OP-5 landspeeder
- Flash landspeeder
- Gian landspeeder
If anyone knows of any I've missed, please feel free to add them.
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3/9/2006, 7:06 am
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Witzig
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Re: Nella Series - Regenesis/Degenesis
Well i don't know if the Luxury 5000 is an important one, but its Canon iirc.
One thing that comes to my Mind and which can be seen on a lot of Pre Imperial Designs is the Location of the Engine on Ships/Speeders, i don't know if there are products which break with that.
The Nyubba, Luxury 3000, V-35, XP-38, Flash Speeder and X-34 all have engines which are seperated with Pylons from the Hull. And they are usually mounted on Mid to Rear Hull. The Nest has the Engines mounted directly on the Hull, but this Design seems to be a lot newer than the Nella.
The Picture of the Luxury 5000 indicates Engines mounted directly in/on the Hull.
Another Thing common to these Ships is the multi-level Design (Nest/Nyubba/Luxury 3000/ Luxury 5000), though that doesn't have to mean anything.
Something else to keep in mind, is that the usual Headroom on SoroSuub Ships is up to 6' so even with 1' Deckspace one can easily press 2 Decks within 18', with Crawlspace above and beyond the Top/Lower Deck. This would only be slightly higher than the current Nella incarnation.
I also had a different Idea how the Nella "could" look like:
BTW does anyone know of a good (and free ) 3D Programm ?
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3/9/2006, 7:55 am
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