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Re: TaggeCo Mobquet Medium Transport
Yes, that would be good. If we want this done right, we have to work systematically. That means we will have to spend a lot of thought about where to put which kind of stuff and how to maximize structural integrity, safety and so on.
I also think that we should do stats for it (if there are no stats already availlable) before we make the ships intestines. Stats can always be modified later, but they are a good guideline for working on it.
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Re: TaggeCo Mobquet Medium Transport
Just equipment or the whole sha-bang (rooms, stairwells etc)
As for stats I can give details and impressions but I know little about stats themselves.
I have a feeling that his blocky design is meant for lifting ability either tonnage or bulky loads, it's not particularly fast or well armed in it's stock form.
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Lets start with a completely gutted plan. Then we can put things that work back in, as we go. When I say "we", it is meant to the extend, that you want it done in teamwork. It is not meant as "Thanks for the dirty work. Now I'll make it mine", just to make sure. Perhaps my experience with Frank and the Nella made me a bit touchy about that issue and I want to minimize the risk of anyone (you in this case) getting this the wrond way. 
I agree that this ship looks like a container freighter. We will also have to thing about those details that are in the texture, but not in the mesh. Especially those huge side-flaps that look like they are mounted with hydraulic jacks. Those could be cargo ramps, but the different sizes freak me out a bit. Might also be stabilizers for athmospheric landings when loaded.
How long exactly was this ship? Any way, crew will likely be of similar size as that of the Action VI, I guess and it might have a lot of passenger space. 4-8 perhaps. I also think that machinery should take up a lot more space than you have allocated so far. Especially thrusters, repulsors and power core.
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9/5/2006, 6:49 pm
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Re: TaggeCo Mobquet Medium Transport
It should be statted out in Dark Empire Sourcebook
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9/5/2006, 9:12 pm
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Re: TaggeCo Mobquet Medium Transport
Dark Empire Sourcebook p 97 & 98
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9/6/2006, 1:18 am
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Re: TaggeCo Mobquet Medium Transport
The huge side flaps I had pegged as loading ramps, I put the loading doors behind there, big ones, as there doesn't appear to be any other feature that would fit the bill.
oh and here's the gutted deckplan, I've left where I think the doors are on and the landing gear pads.
Also about the name is it a Mobquet-class Medium Transport. There is a company called Mobquet Swoops and Speeders, but they build landspeeders, hence the name and are owned by TaggeCo.
It's more likely this design comes from the Tagge Industries Shipyard that Mobquet Swoops and Speeders as another of their designs is the taskfoce modular conveyor, but the Mobquet names continues to get in the way.
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Okay, I am working on a re-analysis of the material, which hopefully come to fruit tomorrow. However, I already found out some interesting things.
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Thanks Void, now you got me all excited and I gotta wait an entire day!
Deck heights and thicknesses modded to more normal dimensions (borrowed from the Corona) cargo hold deckness remaining thicker than normal decking.
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Okay, first of all my apoiogies for not getting much done, yet. You probably noticed that there were some rather unfriendly distractions in the past two weeks, that demanded a lot of my time.
I have been thinking a lot about this ship. Not only the ship itself, but ships of its class and size in general.
I think we should probably rethink some things that were till now widely accepted as fast in these deckplans, but that just feel very wrong in the light of my research (and my personal opinion).
First of all, there are the outer walls. I don't think any well developed ship should have single layer hulls. All ships I have seen in the Incredible Cross sections (the only REAL canon source on ships internals) have double layer hulls. This makes a lot of sense, because nobody would want to trust their lives to one layer of plating that seperates him from vacuum. There are lots of crawlspaces in these ships. Not only between decks, but also between rooms. I think we need to stuff a lot more techbabblestuff in these babies than before.
Another thing is how powercore- and shieldsystems look and work in Star Wars.
Nautic ships in reality have relatively small engines compared to their size, but they have huge tanks for fuel. In Star Wars, the engines tend to me MUCH larger, while the fuel tanks are actually often much smaller. These powercores need very little reaction matter for tremendous output, but they are not really that small themselves. The power systems of the Tantive IV are almost as massive as the whole hammerhead bridge assembly. Without the thrusters! In fact, it seems that more than half that ship is nothing but engines and energy systems. This is not much different in other ships, even though the CR-90 is indeed a ship trimmed for speed. Many other ships are, too.
As for shields: There are lots of indicators in the Cross-Sections books, that shields are not one system. They tend to be two systems: A shield generator and a shield projector. And the shield generator does not project the shield. It just provides technobabble powerstuff to the projectors. We will have to rethink that, because Frank seemed to base his shield systems on that shield generator on Hoth. That is fine, but was just the generator component. The projectors look much more like transmitters. Directional and undirectional transmitters, huge antennae and dishes. On Endor, the generator was a huge bunker complex, yet the projector was a giant dish structure. That does not mean ships use dishes to project their shields, but they use transmitters. Those look very differently from ship to ship, but they do not look like giant turbine engines like the thing we all have seen on Hoth. To repeat it: that is a generator! And generators can look VERY differently.
In the classic ships, shield generators look like ANY kind of power generator, while the projectors tend to look like blue retard capsules.
I will post reference material on all of this soon and we will have to start individual discussion threads about it. I just wanted to tell you what kept me from doing much yet.
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9/22/2006, 4:25 am
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Re: TaggeCo Mobquet Medium Transport
And folks: Please do NOT discuss this here unless it has something directly to do with this specific ship! We will address all of it individually in appropriate topics. Otherwise, chaos will result. 
--- "The sand people are easily startled, but they will soon be back, and in greater numbers." — Obi-Wan Kenobi
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