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Technocc
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Re: Ebon Hawk
I had a yahoo group at one time and here is what I came up with.
http://www.fidnet.com/~n0vot/ebonhawk4.gif
Needs some more work.
Richard Vollmer
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2/14/2006, 11:10 pm
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Lucas P
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Re: Ebon Hawk
nice start on that technocc. very good....the only thing is that although I also like this ship, it is from an era in SWEU that is so far removed from the general era in which we are basing our deckplans, I am not sure how readily usable it is....but then, it could be a reconditioned derelict...I guess that could work...anyone else have any thoughts on this? Frank?
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2/15/2006, 4:29 am
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Grtak
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Re: Ebon Hawk
There are parrallels to cars that may make this ship still able to be used. Everyone knows of restoration, a complete rebuild of all nessecary parts to make as original as possible.
But when the owner of an old car wants to drive it with very few problems, he will often update all the parts that make it go and stop, this is called restification. In this case the car looks very original, but has modern or more modern engine, transmission, and brakes. Sometimes they take a similar sized model and put the older body on the newer chassis.
I don't see why this would not work for a starship. It would be quite expensive, but I think it would be cheaper than restoring an old ship to operational status.
But I also agree that this ship is quite old, so this option may not even be able to help.
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2/15/2006, 4:51 am
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mwolfe
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Re: Ebon Hawk
We also restore old aircraft as well.
the Commemorative airforce has quite a collection of old birds that went from wrecks to flying status after lots of rebuilding (many parts hand made).
finding the hull of the vessel in a orbital junkyard would keep the vessel in fairly decent condition compared to finding it on a planet and there seems to be a few of those around.
the corporate sector uses 3K yr old Invincible class dreadnoughts, so its not completely unlikely to happen.
one could just as easily have a company (Starforge station would be good) rebuilding their own modern version.
we had one where a smuggler had a modern version as a courier that used modular pods in the front.
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2/15/2006, 5:30 am
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jedibobby
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Re: Ebon Hawk
the thing is that in kotor 2 the ship is destroyed but then rebuilt and the way this ship could come in useful is against the Vong by finding the starforge and using it ( depending on how you beat the original) to make ships and droids to fight them
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2/15/2006, 6:01 am
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Re: Ebon Hawk
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the thing is that in kotor 2 the ship is destroyed but then rebuilt
I think that bit in and of itself could prove to be a vital clue. 
It has already been stated that cars and aircraft can be restored and updated by using modern replacement components. Also, when referring to the Cloakshape fighter the old version of the Essential Guide says "it's not uncommon to find that only the original hull remains on a given ship."
If the Ebon Hawk is as old as you say it is, then I see the 'updating' theory as being the most plausible explanation as to how it's even just getting off the ground.
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2/15/2006, 6:29 am
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jedibobby
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the thing surrvived 2 huge wars, taris' destuction, theft attempts,and you say that it needs to be completely rebuilt i dont kno but then that depends where you find it.
i could be crash on a desolate world or in the care of the empire or smugglers.
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2/15/2006, 9:04 am
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Uncle Servo
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Re: Ebon Hawk
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the thing surrvived 2 huge wars, taris' destuction, theft attempts,and you say that it needs to be completely rebuilt i dont kno but then that depends where you find it.
i could be crash on a desolate world or in the care of the empire or smugglers.
Actually, with a ship that old it doesn't really matter one bit where you find it.
Remember that this thing is supposed to be THOUSANDS of years old. It'd be about as old as the Great Pyramids in Egypt are now.
In real life it can often be difficult to find parts for a vehicle that's only 50 or 100 years old -- multiply that problem by about 20 or 30 and you've got major problems keeping a ship that old running on purely vintage parts.
It doesn't matter if it's the Empire or Talon Karrde who's got it -- after that long a time it's going to be far more cost-effective (not to mention much less of a headache) to refit a ship that old with modern components whenever possible.
And the crashing on a desolate world theory wouldn't be any better. If it's crashed and in need of repair/rebuilding you're still going to need the replacement parts.
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2/15/2006, 10:51 am
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psCargile
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Re: Ebon Hawk
Time dilation.
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2/15/2006, 11:03 am
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doormat
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Re: Ebon Hawk
Star Wars has no techinical progression to speak of - they've reached a maximum. It's an artisan culture - they could have built tie fighters two hundred years ago, but no-one needed them. There are occasional "genius" inventions (like the interdictor, or the twin ion engine) which come and go, since they serve a unique role and arn't common enough to enter unversal use. But in a few hundred years time, when the're needed again, you can bet one will turn up, or another genius will come along...
The Hawk could fly and fight in "our" timeline without any system upgrades - it might lack some modern innovations, but it may have advantages and systems that are unique to it's period, too. And the force works in mysterious ways - another designer could have a sudden insperation, several thousend years later, when the time for such a ship has come.
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2/15/2006, 11:23 am
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