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Re: Heath Ledger
Sleeping pills are evil. Heath Ledger... Judy Garland...
Heath was born the same year as me. It's just..... *speechless*
I know some people here use sleeping pills...  Please be careful, with all medications!
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I'd like to know who prescribed those medications for him. Was it one physician or several? And what dosage?
Also, has "sudden death" been reported before as a side effect of these medications, even when used properly? If so, then maybe all these stars who died of "an apparent overdose of sleeping pills" were really the innocent victims of drugs with really bad safety profiles. Hmmm....
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Excellent questions, Delia!
All I know is, I've never really had trouble falling asleep, but when I do - or when I'd just like it to happen a little faster - I'd much rather get the help of a soothing English/Scot voice ( ) than dump chemicals into my body... And the benefit of my preferred method is that it teaches your mind to help itself (and your body), rather than making your body increasingly dependent on the help. And without side effects! (Or, rather, with only positive side effects, like decreased stress, better sleep, etc.)
(Granted, different things work for different people. This is just my opinion/experience and what I trust to work for me. I should note that I've gotten really picky about what I put in my body, especially if I can deal with the pain or whatever in another way. For example, it's been more than 8 months since I last had an ibuprofen, and I used to take them almost daily for back pain and/or headaches.)
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With some pretty severe chronic pain, I'm not spared the need for pain killers - though I'm on less than I was. I wish I didn't need them at all. but I've tried that with little success. Bodywork and chiropractic helps, though...
I hate putting chemicals into my body too; this is why I'm getting off neuroleptics for a seizure issue I don't have. I won't take sleeping medication; it's both bad with any type of seizure history (though it seems my seizures were drug-related, I have no disorder anyone can find!) and I'm uncomfortable with the concept in general.
I had a nightmare last night that some doctor was trying to give me general anesthesia and it wasn't going well; it didn't put me out right away. I was saying "I'm scared, I'm scared" and tried to get up. I woke up with a start, feeling drugged, and had to reassure myself that I wasn't actually drugged. How weird a dream is that??
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ButMadNNW wrote: I'd much rather get the help of a soothing English/Scot voice
It's interesting that you mention voice as a sleeping aid. I used to use books on tape or a tape of a really
boring lecture to fall asleep. Sometimes I also used the sound of a thunderstorm. But when all else fails I use herbs. Double or triple strength Chamomile tea always works for me. (Passionfruit, Valerian, and other herbs also work, but I haven't tried them.)
Don't these stars know about herbal medicine?
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ButMadNNW wrote: I'd much rather get the help of a soothing English/Scot voice
It's interesting that you mention voice as a sleeping aid. I used to use books on tape or a tape of a really boring lecture to fall asleep.
Yeah, I could see that working, too -- one of the reasons I was so desperate to see Branagh's Hamlet released on DVD is that I'd all but worn out the audio on the first tape of my VHS set from all the times I fell asleep to it. 
However, check the link in my post - I was referring to a very specific form of vocal sleep aid: hypnosis for sleep. (For the record, I have three of the four sleep programs available at that link [along with several of their other programs], and they're all wonderfully successful. I highly recommend their programs. Both of the blokes who run the site are very talented. One of them, Mark Tyrrell, is the same Mark I've been emailing with for the last 7 months and whom F4E and I visited in Brighton in November.)
And Tamlin? As long as I'm on the topic: This link's for you.  It's a thought.
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Thank you, ButMad! I just might look into that...I bookmarked it.
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I feel so bad for Ledger...
