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I have not yet seen 'Master and Commander' yet, but am looking forward to it since I enjoyed the O'Brien books so much. I have noted that in our politically-correct age, the enemy ship has been turned into a Frenchman, rather than an American, (as in the novels), and that the film is actually a condensation of two volumes of the saga rather than one.
The casting seems odd, but appropriate. I always read the books thinking of Maturin as the hero and 'voice' of the author...Aubrey merely as a central character, yet if you're making a movie, naturally you'd make Aubrey the hero...he IS the captain, after all. Very curious to see what becomes of the internal storylines and asides....or if they've just been abandoned alltogether for the surface story.

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   Unlike the Matrix's films.the characters in Master and Commander are likeable and you do care for them during the climax.I think the film has also been set a few years earlier than the book.As there is mention of Britain been under threat of invasion from France,which by 1812 it was not as the French Fleet had been soundly defeated by then.
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I have not yet seen 'Master and Commander' yet, but am looking forward to it since I enjoyed the O'Brien books so much.



..in which case, there was a story in the papers today about Mr O'B.. apparantly someone's just turned up some chapters from his next planned book.. work is under way to scour his house for the rumoured extra ones his friends remember him writing, and since he'd plotted it all out.. the move is afoot to have it published in some form. emoticon

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I have noted that in our politically-correct age, the enemy ship has been turned into a Frenchman, rather than an American, (as in the novels)



...surely it's less PC to have a pop at the Fro.. er.. French than the Americans, though?! More believable, maybe, but...! emoticon
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Finally DID see 'Master and Commander' and enjoyed it very much. I know it has not done the big business that Hollywood was hoping for, but I think it will endure as a fine film and a remarkable re-creation of life on a sailing vessel, something Mr. O'B would have approved of.
Having French rather than American foes didn't really make much of a difference...no real dialogue or character with the enemy in this film, except for the hint at the end. I was disappointed in that, since one profound difference in conflict of that time was that it was pretty much face-to-face, artillery range being so poor. Wellington fought the battle of Waterloo by galloping back and forth across the front only a few hundred yards from Napoleon and his troops. They could easily see one another through a telescope. Today's conflicts are more remote, so it's easier to 'demonize' the foe.
I'm sorry to hear, Ntnon, that there may be a 'last book' scrounged up from the shreds.
It would seem a disservice to a long and highly-polished, well-crafted series.

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I'm sorry to hear, Ntnon, that there may be a 'last book' scrounged up from the shreds.
It would seem a disservice to a long and highly-polished, well-crafted series.



Quite.. the potential is there, sadly. emoticon

...like they did to Douglas Adams. emoticon I've yet to see 'Salmon of Doubt' personally, but most of the reviews weren't too happy with the shameless cobbling together of odds and ends just to make some money...

Oh well. Consumer society... emoticon

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  For anyone interested in the source material for the almanac the following book is now available to buy.The book featuring the vampire city of Selene(mentioned in the European chapter)called curiously enough Vampire City by Paul Feval and adapted by Brian Stableford and published by those fine folks at Black Coat press.Also available are the companion volumes The Vampire Countess and Knightshade.All three books were written before Bram Stokers Dracula.
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Last week i bought a bunch of old comics at a car boot sale (glamorous) and i found a little gem in among them. A 3 part story called Scarlet Traces... apparently it was first run n the Cool Beanz website but the site went belly up before the story could be concluded. The version i have was re-printed in the back of some Judge Dredd Megazines from 2 or 3 years back.
The story is a kind of sequal to War Of The Worlds. It is a murder mystery set in victorian London a few years after the failed martian invasion. It shows how the victorians might have salvaged martian technology and applied the principles of said technology to everyday life... so basically its a kind of cool victorian steam-punk murder mystery mash. It is well worth reading if you can find it... although i admit it might be kinda hard to find.
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Last week i bought a bunch of old comics at a car boot sale (glamorous)



...lucky... emoticon

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and i found a little gem in among them. A 3 part story called Scarlet Traces... apparently it was first run n the Cool Beanz website but the site went belly up before the story could be concluded. The version i have was re-printed in the back of some Judge Dredd Megazines from 2 or 3 years back.



...really..? I had no idea. emoticon Do you have issue numbers or somesuch, please..?
 
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The story is a kind of sequal to War Of The Worlds. It is a murder mystery set in victorian London a few years after the failed martian invasion. It shows how the victorians might have salvaged martian technology and applied the principles of said technology to everyday life... so basically its a kind of cool victorian steam-punk murder mystery mash. It is well worth reading if you can find it... although i admit it might be kinda hard to find.



Actually... emoticon Dark Horse have relatively recently reprinted the whole thing. emoticon This is D'Israelis and Mr Edgington's work, is it not...? See this section of D'Israeli's website for details. emoticon

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...really..? I had no idea. emoticon Do you have issue numbers or somesuch, please..?



OK, so they were further down the same page.... emoticon

4.16-4.18

...Assuming the '4' is 'Volume', does it actually specify on the cover which volume the Megazines are from, just to draw attention away from my unreading..?!

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****aine cakes,

Why was I censored?

Oh, and read Dracula. Characters are less clicheish than they are in the movies. In other words, no new age crap.



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