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Am I the only one disappointed by the appalling artwork on Neil Gaiman's intriguing series.I'll stay with the book to see what the pay off is,but Andy Kuberts lack of research for this is really bad.
There appears to be no research done by him into the costumes and clothes worn by people in the 17th.The most glaring mistake been the medieval costumes worn by the soldiers chain mail,surcoats and kite shields had not been used for probably a 100 years if not longer by this time.And there is really no excuse not to do proper research when doing an historical series.All in all this really does spoil what is as I say an intriguing series.
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15/1/04, 10:17
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Re: 1602
I lost interest in this series after #3. The concept was exciting to think about, but you're right. The artwork is uninspiring and the plotline seems thin.
It all seems to be hinged on the gimmick of being set in the past, which is not enough to hold me for eight issues.
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Yep, I'd have to agree that it's a bit of a snooze. How much foreboding and ominous can one take when one knows there's a pat ending lifted from the Marvel History? Comics have become even more self-referential than television.
What's next? Reality comics...oh, wait...we've already had those. In fact, it seems like they were ahead of their time once again.
As to the art...it's not too thrilling, either. Not only sparse research and a couple of real howlers in historicity, but the general idea seems to be that if we ink with a vaguely 'engraver's line' feel, it will be correct. Nice concept for a one-shot gag, but is not really sustaining for a series.
Am I the only one who thinks Neil Gaiman is a bit overrated? I read the 'Sandman' series and 'American Gods', etc...but they didn't compare to our boy Alan.
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Ntnon,
I agree that 'some' comics set in the past can be very successful. Otherwise, I wouldn't even be on this board. But, in 1602, there doesn't truly to be any great differences between a Marvel plotline set in 1602 and one set today.
Doom has the Fantastic Four trapped? Heard it!
X-men faced against Magneto? Seen it!
I was very excited about the concept, but there seems to truly be nothing at risk in this title. It's a cute gimmick, but the heroes will prevail in much the same way as they always have in Marvel, and they just seem to be dressed differently.
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Oh, come now! No research?! Look back at #5... see Mr Kubert at his desk.. see the books on the floor... now, take back those words! ;p  
Just a pity he never picked any up.
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17/1/04, 14:01
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Of Neil Gaiman's output I've read American Gods and throughly enjoyed it.The same with Neverwhere,brilliant concept and the TV series wasn't bad either.
But to be honest I've only read a couple of issues of Sandman and I couldn't get into it.And his Miracle man was sadly cut short at the start of Young(Kid?,I forget which was which) Miracle Mans fight against Miracle Man.
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17/1/04, 14:08
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By the way for anyone who is interested in this period of time and wants to learn more about it.There is a new book just out called 1603 by Christopher Lee(the historian not the actor)about this pivotal moment in time when the Stuart monarch James was invited to take the throne of England after the death of Elisabeth.Of the many conspiracies at the time and life in general.
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And his Miracle man was sadly cut short at the start of Young(Kid?,I forget which was which) Miracle Mans fight against Miracle Man.
That was The Silver Age (Book Five).
He also wrote the ENTIRE Book Four (The Golden Age) which is pretty great.
I'm surprised you haven't liked Sandman. Admittedly, the first few stories are not the best (and even those are not bad), but it picks up pretty quickly after that.
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'eight', indeed!