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Re: 'ONE BIG GIG'! 2
It is a shame when it comes down to just money, but you guys were the ones demanding such money weren't you?
Celebrating island talent and support of the local artists is a great thing, but does it stretch to financial support as well....
Money is tight with everyone these days (except maybe promotional companies), so did you honestly expect the kids to shell out £25 just in order to support and celebrate the local bands?
I'm sure the organisers and acts worked extremely hard to make it a good day. I just heard a lot of criticism over paying that amount to see a friends band.
Lets hope it is more of a success next year, but cant help feeling you are going to have to do something to attract the punters
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18/Aug/06, 14:05
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Re: 'ONE BIG GIG'! 2
You didnt even go - so how on earth can you possibly comment so negatively, or even have a properly 'informed' view on it?
IF you had have gone, then you would have been in the same mindset as everyone else who went and come out with an EXTREMELY positive feeling about it!
Plus, it was the first year....festivals take time to build up - do you think IOW festival, Glastonbury, etc started with thousands of people?
Do you not think it is right to put a festival on especially to support Island talent? Everyone else thought so! If you had played (which you ACTUALLY asked to do...!), would you have a different viewpoint i wonder?...
Instead of using this forum to set up a negative viewpoint and dialogue to try to get others on board (which you will notice hasnt actually worked for you, coz its only us answering), then why don't you be a little more supportive?
We reiterate: £25 for 24 hours of top music over 2 days equates to about 80p per band PLUS all the other entertainment that was put on (it wasnt just a beer tent and a stage!), PLUS the festival vibe. Its NOT the same as seeing someone in a pub at all - you cant even compare it!
And, you could have paid £15 for a day and £10 for the Sunday, if you didnt want to pay for the whole weekend. Plus, everything else was free when you got there...
We're asking for support, not a slamming.
Do you think people watch bands on the island for free everywhere then? I dont think so! Think on.....
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ONE BIG GIG
One Big Gig was a fantastic concept, and the organisers worked extremely hard to bring Islanders together to support Island Music. No the weekend wasn't as successful as it could, or I should say, should have been...
Yes, there were issues with the prices of the tickets for the weekend, £25 seemed a lot of money...however, as Sandie (from Beanfeast events who organised One Big Gig) points out, there were day tickets available which would have halved that cost...
Let’s stop and think for a minute…what is the average amount of money we spend on a night out? How many people go out for even just one night and have much, if any, change from £25 when they get back home? Yes, £25 seems a lot of money, but on the scale of things, and even down to value for money, £25 was an extremely reasonable price to expect to pay to see that many bands and DJ’s, not forgetting the real festival spirit that was created over the weekend…
So, we get on to the next issue that has been raised…location of the gig…who can complain? A shuttle bus to the site was laid on every half an hour from Ryde seafront…you could get there…and easily! There was also parking available…and hang on…where’s the festival spirit gone? when people would trek for miles to go and see a live show? It would have taken 30 minutes to walk to the site from Ryde town (I know I’ve done it!!) Are we really all a bunch of lazy bums who don’t want to make an effort any more? I hope not.
So, we move on to the issue of the bands…well, quite frankly, the quality of the bands and DJ's that played were fantastic...and yes, there are instances when you can see the same bands gigging in your area for free...Which is all well and good, but tell me...how are we ever going to lift the appeal of Island music to those over that water, if our own Island based, supposed music lovers do not get up off their bums and help raise the profile of the fantastic scene we have here...and really, do we expect to have everything for free? Do we really expect these bands, who are trying to make a name for themselves, working hard, gigging wherever they can, to play in bars for the rest of their musical careers? Why should they have to? Why shouldn’t they expect support from their peers? There are some really, REALLY talented bands on this Island who deserve a bit of a pat on the back for what they are trying to achieve…
Also, and this may be a lesser known fact about the One Big Gig organisers – they sent out demos of all the bands playing to music labels all over the place…and representatives of those labels came down to the Island for the weekend to watch those bands…and from what I’m hearing, a couple of them have real and solid interest now…purely because Beanfeast events believed in them enough to make the effort and send demos out and get them playing on the One Big Gig stage…for that alone, Beanfeast should be applauded…
If we do not have events like One Big Gig to showcase our music, our musicians may just as well pack their bags and move to the mainland...and by crikey, we really don't want that to happen! We want the Island to be THE place to be seen gigging, and at the moment it is! We are seeing monthly shows from Curious Generation bringing the latest NME mentioned bands, we have Rob Da Bank investing time and money into our scene, Rob has even spoken with me about his admiration of talent on the Island and wants to do more to develop the scene, we have John Giddings highlighting Island music at the IOW Festival.
We want all those big mainland music producers and promoters looking down here for talent, pumping business into our own scene, and allowing our musicians to play on home ground and be proud of their roots...which they bloomin’ well should be able to do!
I have been asked by several people “do you think we are musicked out on the Island” and, because of the business WightVibe is in, I have had to think long and hard about it…and I honestly don’t think we are…I believe with a bit of organisation, and support, we can really make the Island a hub of British music…but that won’t happen by magic…
I hope above hope that Beanfeast Events decide to put One Big Gig on again next year, and I hope that everyone who claims to be a music lover, a ‘fan’ of the bands, or just someone who enjoys a good vibe and meeting new people, will buy that ticket and support our music scene…the Island has built a great reputation for music over the past few years, and it was a long, long time coming…the scene was dead for so long…and now we have it back, it seems we’re willing to let it go…without even a fight...and that is a crying shame.
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Re: 'ONE BIG GIG'!
Woah there ladies! Handbags.
I merely asked if the rumours and talk of the gig being a flop were true. The forum is here for people to put an opinion up in an adult fashion. Im not looking for others to agree, I am simply asking for a view. Obviously the organisers will say it’s a huge success regardless.
As I have already said, I am sure they worked very hard and lets hope it is more of a success next year. My only criticism was that the entry fee was too much, and that is what stopped many people going (as has been confirmed by pretty much everyone I have discussed it with, and something even you have agreed to Wadey the editor!)
I think that most of the target audience would not have £25 to spare for such a gig, when you also consider cost of drinks and travel (for those who do not live in Smallbrook or Ryde of course).
If I offended anyone I sincerely apologise. I just asked a question.
I would look at the forums on www.iwight.com particularly under the subject heading ‘One Big Gig’
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19/Aug/06, 20:57
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One Big Gig
Reidy - I fully understand the point you were putting across - and yes, the issues you have raised are certainly issues that have been bought up by a few people I have spoken to about One Big Gig - therefore you were justified in putting your point across.
My point however, was to try to come up with answers to the problems that were raised...I do think that Island music lovers let One Big Gig down and without their support - none of us (including WightVibe) can continue...I of course feel very strongly about it...I, and our team of writers, photographers and forum manager, dedicate many many hours a week to the scene...and I have to consider whether this whole thing is in fact worth the effort...when, at the end of the day, when push comes to shove... you find that no one really actually cares?...
My response was in no way a 'dig' at you - and I thank you for being the only one who made the effort to even raise the subject on wightvibe (although I saw at least 14 visitors on the forum throughout yesterday reading the One Big Gig thread...not one of them had an opinion!)
...WightVibe is definately having a breakthrough moment right now...we have finally got some very important support that could really push the profile of Island music much higher in the British music scene as a whole..however, I have to consider very carefully whether WightVibe has the Island's music players/listeners support itself to allow us to go ahead with it...it can't all be one-sided, and it's a hard decision!
Therefore, my decision to support One Big Gig was partly for selfish reasons on WightVibe's part...if an event like that doesn't receive the support it should, then can I really expect people to back WightVibe?...
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Re: 'ONE BIG GIG'! 2 DAY MINI FESTIVAL FEATURING ISLAND BANDS & DJ'S
A number of points.
No matter which way you want to put it - And I agree about quality and effort that has gone in - You are asking someone to put £25 in their pockets which is a fair amount of money. Certainly I could not afford that much right off, and Smallbrook stadium is easy walking distance for me. You may be able to justify it by chunking down to bands per pound, but people just see a wad of cash disappearing from their wallet.
In my own head, if the price was around £14-£18, it would have been a stretch but much more realistic. Remembering especially that this is a new event and people would not know how good (or not) it was likely to be.
100 people at £25 is £2500 - Lower the price to £15 - Say you get five times more people come along - 500 people at £15 each is £7500! You make more money - More people see and enjoy the event! Everyone's a winner baby, that's the truth!
Second point - I think you need MORE than just saying Island bands playing - This might be controversial but as people are saying 'Why should we go, when we can see them playing at XYZ' - The organisers, perhaps should take this on board and offer something IN ADDITION - Of course, Island bands, we all want to see them - But something of more interest for the punters to come and see - Something that they would not be able to get elsewhere. Of course, a mainland headline act or two would be an obvious thought . . .
Nobody needs to get disheartened - But listen to what people are saying - Fix it for next year and make it a bigger and better event loads of people can come and enjoy.
Either way - Get the Shanklin Freakshow and Uberlaser to play next year - The crowds will pour in! (Or run screaming!) LOL (Gratuitous plug).
Chris Uberlaser
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http://www.myspace.com/uberlasermusic
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http://www.myspace.com/theshanklinfreakshow
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Couldnt agree more Uberlaser, and thank you for seeing it from both sides.
To the organisers of One Big Gig, please do get Uberlaser or the Shanklin Freakshow on that stage next year! For simply making some valid points, without passion, he has earned it.
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20/Aug/06, 22:55
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We asked. They weren't available!...
Is that to say that none of the other top bands couldnt pull in the punters then?
We understand that the price may have been a little unacceptable to something so new to people.
There WAS much more to offer! It was described as, and was a 'mini-festival' - not just a gig.
It had a theme and lots of stuff to do - if you'd come, you'd have noticed...
Remember, we were celebrating Island music by giving bands and DJ's a 'festival' of their own, a chance to be seen by more than a handful of people down the local pub. It was put on in a stadium.
As a 'mini' festival, it was no different to paying through the nose for the IOW festival or Bestival, except a quarter of the price, but with a better vibe! All bands start off as local bands! We're talking about ORIGINAL stuff here - not just copies and covers! These bands go to a lot of effort for their 'craft'. Most of the time, these bands are forced to play covers to get gigs! This was a fab opportunity for them to play on a good size stage with an excellent sound, in a festival atmosphere (not like down yer local mate!)
A lot of money needed to be paid to put it on. Not anywhere near the same as a band standing at the end of a readymade dive of a grotty bar somewhere.
We were inundated by people who wanted to play it. We could have got 3 days out of it in the end, but couldnt fit everyone in. Those people that did play it, loved it, said a VERY BIG THANKS to us and are sincerely up for it again.
We hope that we will be able to afford to put it on again next year, and that people will support it next time.
We have taken your comments onboard and will lower the price - if it can be done when all costs considered.
(and it cost us a helluva lot more than £7500 mate!)
I cannot believe that we started off by trying to produce something good for musicians and music lovers, and we are sitting here trying to justify every little point.
Everyone could have paid £15 on Saturday or £10 on Sunday(we dropped the price). Nobody was forced to pay £25 - that was for the entire weekend - making a day £12.50 each.
It didn't make any difference though - people didnt support it! That is extremely disheartening for us. so give us a break and perhaps look at it as a unique achievement and pat us on the back for making the effort and putting it on, instead of making us feel so dispondent about it all.
We will be back!
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22/Aug/06, 17:40
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Re: 'ONE BIG GIG'!
You better be! 
I think we will all be looking out for it now. If anything the comments and discussion above have raised the profile and awareness of the One Big Gig.
The forums are here to give the feedback from the people on the ground; something you may not hear otherwise. Good on you Wightvibe for giving us this luxury!
Summer 2007 One BIGGER gig
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Thanks for that one last POSITIVE comment!
We are very thankful for that because it was getting a little bit depressing and tiresome - so glad to end it on a positive note!
cheers! Sandie and Charlene x
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